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Covenant & Conflict

Gateway Center for Israel

"Covenant & Conflict" is a thought-provoking podcast produced by the “Gateway Center for Israel” and hosted by Nic Lesmeister and David Blease, where ancient biblical truths meet contemporary issues head-on. Each episode offers a deep dive into complex and often divisive topics with subject matter experts, aiming to explore the intersection of covenantal values and modern debates. Instead of fostering division, this podcast seeks to model respectful engagement and peaceful discourse amidst

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01:04:58

Arab Christian From Bethlehem: How Believers Should...

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2025/10/22

In this compelling episode of the Covenant & Conflict Podcast, Arab Christian pastor Steven Khoury from Bethlehem shares what it’s like to live out his faith in the middle of the Israel–Palestine conflict.Born in Jerusalem and raised in Bethlehem, Steven shares his personal journey of persecution, ministry, and hope. He discusses:What life is really like for Arab Christians in the West Bank (Biblical Judea & Samaria)The difference between political opinions and biblical truth about IsraelWhy

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00:52:23

Chief Rabbi Sees Yeshua and Defies the Nazis: When...

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2025/10/08

This episode of Covenant and Conflict shares the true story of Rabbi Daniel Zion, the chief rabbi of Bulgaria during World War II. After a profound vision of Yeshua as the Messiah, Rabbi Zion partnered with Metropolitan Stefan, a leader in the Bulgarian Orthodox Church, to resist Nazi orders and protect the Jewish community. Together, they helped save over 50,000 Bulgarian Jews from deportation and death.Though Rabbi Zion later faced rejection from his own community because of his Messianic faith,

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00:45:42

The Theology of Hell: Jewish Insights, Christian...

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2025/09/24

The Bible’s teaching on Hell can be challenging. Much of our knowledge about Hell comes from the words of Jesus himself, but what did his Jewish audience understand at the time? In this conversation, we sit down with Dr. Dan Call, Chair of the Department of Doctoral Studies and Professor of Practical Theology, to explore these questions.In the Hebrew Scriptures and in Jewish thought, “Hell” was less about eternal damnation and more about purification or temporary separation. Jesus speaks about both

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01:17:07

Is the Pro-Israel Church out of Proportion? A letter...

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2025/09/10

Welcome back to Covenant and Conflict, the podcast from the Gateway Center for Israel where faith meets one of the world’s most complex conversations.In this episode, we sit down with Hannah Morton, whose journey into this topic began when she noticed how “pro-Israel” our church was. While she deeply understood the theology and biblical priority of Israel and the Jewish people, she began asking a bold and uncomfortable question: Is our love for Isaac unintentionally leaving Ishmael in the

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00:40:39

A Messianic Rabbi and the Pope: From Division to...

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2025/08/27

FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA:https://instagram.com/CenterForIsrael/https://www.facebook.com/CenterForIsraelhttps://twitter.com/CenterForIsraelhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/gateway-center-for-israelLEARNING RESOURCES:Getting Started — Israel 101: https://centerforisrael.com/getting-started/Israel Prayer Guide: https://centerforisrael.com/israel-prayer-guide/Perspective Papers: https://centerforisrael.com/papers/

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00:41:03

Ethiopian Israeli Worship Leader Shares About Yeshua...

Covenant & Conflict ·

2025/08/06

Ethiopian Israeli Worship Leader Shares About Yeshua & Israel

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01:03:46

Was Matthew Written in Hebrew? Shocking Discoveries...

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2025/07/30

In this thought-provoking episode, David Blease sits down with Nehemia Gordon—renowned Hebrew scholar and former Orthodox Jew turned Karaite—to explore the profound differences between Rabbinic Judaism and Karaite Judaism.Nehemia shares his journey of faith and scholarship, revealing why Karaites choose to follow the Hebrew Bible alone, wrestling with the later Rabbinic traditions like the Talmud. Together, we trace the historical roots of the Karaite movement and examine its implications for Jewish

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00:57:34

This Is My Body: A Messianic Jewish View on Communion...

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2025/07/16

Believers across denominations are asking deeper questions about Communion—the Eucharist. In this episode, we explore what Jesus meant when He instituted it at Passover, whether we receive His actual body and blood, and how the Church can faithfully recover God’s heart for the Table.

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00:40:50

Yeshua: The Stumbling Block — Perspectives From an...

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2025/07/02

Yeshua: The Stumbling Block — Perspectives From an Israeli Messianic Jew

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01:13:18

Church Authority & Councils: How Serious Should We...

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2025/06/18

What happens when church history and Jewish heritage collide? In this compelling conversation with Dr. Jen Rosner, we explore the tension between Christian tradition and Jewish roots, confronting the flaws of early church councils while honoring the beauty and complexity of both faith traditions.

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01:12:54

A Christian-Pastor’s Conversation with Orthodox...

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2025/06/04

What happens when a Christian pastor sits down with two Orthodox rabbis from Israel to discuss faith, theology, and the future of the Jewish-Christian relationships? This powerful episode of Covenant and Conflict dives deep into one of the most pressing spiritual conversations of our time.In today's episode we explore:The complex tension between particularity and universalism in God’s covenantal planThe challenges and theological consequences of replacement theologyHow humility and historical

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01:01:59

Drawn to Jewish Roots: Guiding the 4 Kinds of Seekers...

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2025/05/21

Join David Blease and Preston Benjamin as they unpack the four types of seekers in the Jewish-Christian space—authenticity, conspiracy, curiosity, and identity—offering insight and practical guidance on leading people toward a deeper faith and avoiding many common pitfalls.This video is a must-watch for anyone who feels led to the Jewish foundations of our faith.

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00:55:56

Embracing the Sabbath: Practical Steps to Overcoming...

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2025/05/07

In this episode of Covenant & Conflict, David Blease and Matthew Hernandez explore the transformative practice of the Sabbath, emphasizing its significance as a time for rest and connection with God and family. Matthew shares insights from his own journey, including meaningful traditions his family has embraced and flexible ways to incorporate Sabbath into busy lives. Join us to discover how this sacred practice can bring healing and awareness of God's presence into your everyday routine!

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00:47:00

Exploring Replacement Theology & the Acts Model, with...

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2025/04/16

In this episode, David Blease sits down with Preston Benjamin, an expert in Messianic Jewish understanding with a Master's in Biblical Theology. Preston breaks down Acts 15, the historical roots of the Evangelical Church, and whether the Church should return to the Acts model. The early church faced a major challenge in integrating Gentile believers who wanted to follow the God of Israel, but were not commanded by God to adopt Jewish identity and practices. Through the guidance of the Holy

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00:50:08

Holocaust Survivor Recounts Her Childhood, with...

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2025/04/09

In this episode, Rosian Zerner, a Holocaust survivor, shares her harrowing story of witnessing the Nazis' invasion of her hometown in Lithuania and the horrors that followed.She describes the atrocities committed by her Lithuanian neighbors, the deprivation and harsh conditions in the ghettos and concentration camps, and the bravery of those who risked their lives to help her escape.Despite the trauma, Rosian rebuilt her life in the United States, raising a family and living to the age of 90

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00:57:21

One New Man: Messianic Jewish Scholar Explains...

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2025/04/02

In this episode, Dr. David Rudolph and David Blease discuss the importance of understanding the Jewish foundation of the Christian faith and the need for a healthy relationship between Jewish and Gentile believers in Messiah.They discuss topics such as:* The danger of trying to integrate Jewish practices into the church without developing meaningful relationships with the Jewish community.* The concept of the "one new man" in Ephesians 2, which refers to Jews and Gentiles coming together

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00:54:58

How did Jesus Fulfill Passover? A Messianic...

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2025/03/26

In this episode, we talk about the significance of Passover and its connection to the life and ministry of Jesus (Yeshua). We explore how Passover is a feast of revival, with historical examples of major revivals in the Old Testament associated with Passover. The discussion also delves into the symbolic elements of Passover, such as the bitter herbs, unleavened bread, and the four cups of wine, and how they foreshadow and point to Jesus as the fulfillment of Passover. Additionally, the conversation

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00:39:46

Living Like Jesus: What Role Should Jewish Traditions...

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2025/03/19

This episode explores the biblical and historical context around the relationship between Jewish and Gentile believers in Jesus. Nic and David from the Center For Israel discuss:* The tendency among Christians to "supersede" or overlook the importance of God's covenantal relationship with the Jewish people in the biblical narrative* The debate around whether Gentile believers should adopt Jewish practices and traditions* The historical context of the decisions made at the Council of

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00:49:55

Bridging Identities: A Scholarly Look at Jewish and...

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2025/03/12

Today, we talk with Dr. Jen Rosner, a Jewish follower of Yeshua (Jesus) and prolific author and professor. She explores the tensions and challenges she has faced in navigating her Jewish identity while following the Messiah and the importance of embracing them rather than seeking to resolve them entirely. The discussion also highlights the need to honor the distinct identities of Jewish and Gentile believers in the Messiah and to avoid perpetuating a "two-class society" where Gentiles feel

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00:48:43

Trekking Through the Holocaust - Why Christians Must...

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2025/03/05

In this episode, David talks with Kara Daniels about her experience on a trip to Europe that followed the path of the Holocaust, including stops in Germany, Prague, and Poland. The speaker shares how the trip transformed her perspective on the Jewish people, the Holocaust, and the Church's responsibility to understand and support the Jewish community.Seeing these sights up close and with Jewish Educators who are children of Holocaust survivors provided a more concrete and personal understanding

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