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5-4

Prologue Projects

5-4 is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. Hosted by Peter Shamshiri, Rhiannon Hamam, and Michael Liroff, it's a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court's most important landmark cases and an irreverent tour of all the ways in which the law is shaped by politics.Subscribe to our premium episodes & much more at fivefourpod.com/support5-4 is a production of Prologue Projects.

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21:15

The 2025 5-4 Giving Guide: Don’t Let the Fascists...

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2025/12/23

https://immigrationequality.org/bit.ly/donatepym2025https://www.palestinianyouthmovement.com/https://brigidalliance.org/donate-in-2025/https://trees.org/https://chuffed.org/project/158294-for-those-who-have-no-one-to-campaign-for-themhttps://1804books.com/products/witness-to-the-hellfire-of-genocidehttps://www.iwrising.org/donatehttps://give.foodbanknyc.org/tinyurl.com/freeleqaafundhttps://wandaalstonfoundation.org/If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get

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4:53

Movie Review: Average Joe [TEASER]

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2025/12/16

A movie about a dipshit who prays his way to the Supreme Court. It’s worse than you imagine.If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at www.patreon.com/fivefourpod.5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Andrew Parsons. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY,

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45:59

Trump v. Orr

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2025/12/09

Trans erasure. Anti-intellectualism. Culture war. Moral panic. These are a few of the Supreme Court’s favorite things!If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.]5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Andrew Parsons. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by

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4:45

Fire at Will: Trump’s Illegal War in the Caribbean...

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2025/11/25

These days, three degrees of separation from a drug dealer is all it takes to get you drone struck by the U.S. government in Venezuela. And look, maybe these extrajudicial killings aren’t exactly legal, but the bigger problem for all you sissy justice lovers out there is that this administration doesn’t care about the law. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at

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44:53

Department of Homeland Security v. Thuraissigiam

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2025/11/18

*** An earlier version of this episode incorrectly referred to the asylum officers who conduct credible fear interviews as border patrol agents. ***If the government is acting all authoritarian-y, detaining you in violation of your rights, there’s a basic assumption in the Constitution that you can use “The Great Writ” of habeas corpus to challenge that unlawful behavior. But Samuel Alito would like to remind you what happens when you ASS U ME. Something something immigrants, something something

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49:33

“What’s at Stake is Everything”: The Last Columbia...

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2025/11/11

You've heard about all the Supreme Court cases about how immigration law is different, about how ICE's powers are different, about how the Trump administration can do whatever it wants…on this episode, Rhiannon talks to Leqaa Kordia's lawyers about what all this means for a Palestinian woman in ICE detention right now. The good news is: our liberation is interconnected, and we can fight the good fight.Sign the Free Leqaa Petition: Free Leqaa Campaign Follow the Free Leqaa Campaign on

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45:58

Garcetti v. Ceballos

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2025/11/04

The Supreme Court tramples upon your most sacred right: the right to complain about your co-workers.If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips

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4:45

Panic! In The Federal Judiciary [TEASER]

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2025/10/28

You know things are really bad when federal judges–historically an extremely reticent group–are sounding the alarm about the chaos and confusion the Supreme Court is reaping these days. Never fear, Amy Coney Barrett is here to remind all of us that everything is fine, because the shadow docket is not a big deal, originalism is fun and interesting, and she's a real human mother.If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only

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49:29

Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Lopez-Mendoza

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2025/10/21

I think we can all agree that the Constitution guarantees every individual certain unalienable rights–oh wait, sorry, getting a call. Right. Sorry. Okay. Yea. Got it. Hey, so I think we can all agree that immigration law is different from other laws, and the Constitution doesn’t really apply there.If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.5-4 is

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43:05

Rhiannon Interviews Mahmoud Khalil

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2025/10/18

On this episode of Popular Cradle, (Rhiannon’s other podcast!), she interviews Columbia grad student Mahmoud Khalil, who was detained by ICE for more than 100 days earlier this year. You can find Popular Cradle wherever you listen to podcasts.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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38:32

Department of State v. AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition

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2025/10/14

Feels like we should be able to collectively wrestle with the problems of a system by which 14 million people will die in the next five years because one man can decide to withhold a bunch of money that Congress said needed to be spent, but unfortunately, because of the law, and what the law says, no one can sue about it. Good luck with figuring this one out.If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack

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4:45

Free Speech, Chilled to Perfection [TEASER]

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2025/10/07

Do you ever feel…like a plastic bag, drifting through the wind, wanting to start again? That’s understandable because battles over free speech and the First Amendment are raging right now, whether on the internet, on TV, in the workplace, or in the streets. But baby, you’re a firework. And the Trump administration can’t take that from you.If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and

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59:08

2025-2026 Supreme Court Term Preview

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2025/09/23

You are getting very sleepy…you are getting very sleepy…HEY! Wake up. It may look like the slate of cases for this Supreme Court term doesn't have many fundamental constitutional rights hanging in the balance, but don’t be lulled into thinking any of this is low stakes. Voting rights, trans people in sports, the death penalty—they’re still on that legal fascism grind, down to every little gear and lever.If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this

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57:16

Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo

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2025/09/16

Papers, please. The hallmark of fascist states of eras past and your favorite movie about authoritarianism is now also the official policy of the United States, with the Supreme Court’s blessing. But don’t worry, you (probably) won’t be stopped, unless you kinda look Hispanic or shop at Home Depot! I feel safer already.If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at

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49:06

Introducing FIASCO: BENGHAZI, hosted by Leon Neyfakh

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2025/09/12

SELF-PROMOTION ALERT FROM LEON! Check out my six-part series on the origins and consequences of the Benghazi scandal.To hear the entire season without waiting around for the rest of the episodes to come out, subscribe to Pushkin+ now on the Fiasco show page in Apple Podcasts or at Pushkin.fm.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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70:59

Welcome to Law School 2025

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2025/09/09

Kudos to everyone who is starting law school in this economy and during an authoritarian regime. In this annual episode, Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael share their wisdom on how to survive law school. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh provides

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4:45

Step Your Pussy Up Under Fascism [TEASER]

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2025/09/02

It's okay to be scared. It's hard not to succumb to the nihilism of the second Trump administration. But that is precisely what he and his administration want you to do. Please don't fall for it. Instead, own your power, make them fear you, and for God's sake, STEP YOUR PUSSY UP! If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.5-4 is

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48:44

Medina v. Planned Parenthood South Atlantic

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2025/08/26

Federal law says that Medicaid recipients have the right to choose their healthcare provider. One problem, though–what if a Medicaid recipient chooses to go to Planned Parenthood to get healthcare? In that case, federal law doesn’t really say what it means. Federal law is silly like that sometimes!If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.5-4 is

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51:11

McMahon v. New York

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2025/08/12

Don't be sad, little Johnny, Trump just took the Department of Education to live on a big farm with so much space to run around and play in, and all the treats the Department of Education could ever dream of. The Department of Education will miss you, too, Johnny, but we promise she's so much happier now. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at

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57:30

Trump Brings the War Home [UNLOCKED]

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2025/08/08

California has become a testing ground for Trump's police state ambitions. In Los Angeles and across the country, he’s merging the military and the police into one entity, with its guns aimed inward.If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.“Experts Question the Legality of Deploying National Guard Officers as Immigration Judges” 5-4 is

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