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PODCAST

Experiential Anatomy

Joan Chan, MD, and Jamie Lee Finch, LMT

A podcast about knowing your body the way your body longs to be known. Co-hosts Joan Chan, MD, and Jamie Lee Finch, LMT, offer practical medicine for bodies in a disembodied time. Each week they’ll invite you to join them in discovering the beautiful, loving, honest person that is your body.

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All Episodes

94:19

Never Again with Leighton Morgan

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/12/02

We’re joined today by psychiatric physician’s assistant, Leighton Morgan, who grew up similar to our hosts in a fundamentalist religion, deconstructed, and found an embodied path. Leighton’s love of humanity drew her to psychiatry, but after the rigors of grad school followed by overtime professional hours, Leighton succumbed to burnout. She shares her journey of meeting Jamie and the somatic work she put into healing herself. Now, Leighton prides herself on working under capacity and having enough

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42:20

Safe to Learn: Reflections on Relationship

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/11/25

Listen in as Jamie and Joan share how the emotional safety of their friendship enables them each to learn and grow despite their differences. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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119:18

German New Medicine

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/11/18

Today, we get a primer on German New Medicine, its founder, and its core principles as Jamie details the fascinating history of modern medicine and posits several questions for us to contemplate: What are the fruits of modern medicine? What did colonialization and industrialization extinguish from medical practice? And, what might happen if we interact with our bodies as if they are an intelligent, spiritual technology? Join us in exploring this paradigm-shifting framework, built by a doctor who was

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44:20

Somatics of Change: Transitions, Shifts, and Taylor...

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/11/11

Listen in for Joan’s review of the new album, Life of a Showgirl, and Jamie’s thoughts on checking in with our bodies and supporting them throughout the various seasons and relationships of life.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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102:01

A Different Kind of Medicine with Dr. Roxanne Cooper

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/11/04

Today, our hosts are joined by Dr. Roxanne Cooper to discuss a new way to practice medicine. Roxanne shares what led her into family medicine and how, after striving under the old system, she reached burnout. She gives us an intimate look at those years of loss and new beginnings, and the passion she has for ADHD and mental health issues. And Joan and Jamie reflect on their experiences with Roxanne as she journeyed toward embodiment.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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43:01

We are a Web: Noticing Our Interconnectedness

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/10/28

Listen in as Jamie processes two recent, difficult events, and Joan reflects on the ripple effect that daily practices can have on the broader systems at work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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85:31

Emergent Strategy

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/10/21

Today, we get a primer on Emergent Strategy as Joan shares an overview of its main principles and how each relates to experiencing our bodies. Our hosts engage in an energetic discussion on fractals, the law of attraction, and the concept that change is the only constant. They discuss several authors, with an emphasis on Adrienne Maree Brown, and extend an invitation to listeners to join in this work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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37:20

Swimming in possibilities: Replacing worry with wonder

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/10/14

Listen in on this season’s first memosode as Joan and Jamie talk about being in the realm of unpleasant and worrisome imaginative possibilities and learning to recognize our bodies’ invitations to regulate and balance.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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90:58

The Realm of Imaginative Possibility

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/10/07

Welcome back to Season 3 as Joan and Jamie invite us into a new period of pausing, being curious, and imagining all the possibilities that lie ahead. We get to hear about their summer meet-up and what their bodies experienced being together for the first time. We also catch up on where they’ve been this summer and get a sneak peek at upcoming guests and episodes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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45:47

A Eulogy to Season 2

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/06/24

Listen in to hear Joan and Jamie’s kids express their ideas of death, while Joan examines truth-telling and Jamie discusses a new identity.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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83:33

So, What Do We Believe About Death?

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/06/17

The death of season two is upon us! But in keeping with the theme of death-rebirth-life, our hosts announce that Season 3 is happening! Join us today for a peek into what's emerging next and a final discussion on death and the afterlife. Jamie and Joan share their former religious beliefs and the impact those ideas had on their bodies. And they each share what heaven has come to mean to them in the here and now.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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37:05

Life Experiences: Finding Clarity Through Contrast

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/06/10

Listen in as Joan and Jamie share about dreams, grief, empathy, and the importance of living through all of life’s highs and lows.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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82:22

Grieving the Death of God with Dr Hillary McBride

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/06/03

We’re joined today by Dr. Hillary McBride for a conversation about grief and its effect on our bodies. Joan and Jamie share a similar journey of leaving religion as Hillary, so the three discuss the grief over losing one’s identity in God. Hillary explains how important and routine it is for humans to change and reshape our ideas of reality, and it is in these repeated moments that we build our resilience and confidence to withstand the grief that accompanies us throughout all of life.To find out

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33:58

Pleasure In Discomfort: Our Body’s Impulses

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/05/27

Listen in as our hosts share similar stories of building resilience within their bodies and how cycles of death and rebirth connect to exercise and healthcare. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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86:11

Death in Healthcare

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/05/20

Today, our hosts dive deeper into the world of healthcare as they discuss how death is viewed, experienced, and processed within the modern-day system. Joan offers insights on how physicians handle conversations about death with their patients and families, and the inherently flawed structure that prevents all bodies involved from thriving. Our hosts describe a vision for the future that they hope will replace the current, unsustainable framework. And we get a sneak peek at Jamie’s coaching, as she

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33:43

When Bodies Talk: Running with Resilience

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/05/13

Listen in to the sounds of freezing, crunching rain as Joan reflects on the dying systems in healthcare and the new limits her body has set, while Jamie shares her new motivation to run and the importance of trusting our bodies.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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88:11

Our Systems Are Dying

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/05/06

In today’s episode, Joan and Jamie discuss the death of modernity and its large-scale systems. From mass co-dependence to the need to control others, they discuss the various structures of society that are slowly dying. On the practical level, they recount stories from personal experience of the various changes they see happening within the modern healthcare system. And they circle back to their Season 1 theme that will inspire us toward an embodied future.Be sure to check out the book they

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40:02

When Tragedy Strikes: Opening up About Family and Fear

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/04/29

Listen in as Jamie and Joan share vulnerable moments from each of their families’ recent losses.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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80:57

Caroline - The Death Doula Experience

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/04/22

Today we have our first guest, Caroline Lee, who joins Jamie and Joan to discuss death doulas. Caroline offers a brief overview of her Bay Area practice and how she got started in this unique line of work. Similar to giving birth, Caroline describes the routine steps that precede death and her role as a doula in making those transitions as smooth as possible for her patients and their families. She also shares the ethereal aspects that oftentimes accompany someone’s passing. And Jamie asks Joan and

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32:31

Until I Die: Conversations on Life and Loss

Experiential Anatomy ·

2025/04/15

Listen in these voice memos to hear a sweet conversation between Joan and her child, along with several of Jamie’s recent experiences around death.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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